God’s providence was impeccable as I had just so “happened” to be home when I heard the knock at the door. I had just finished my lunch but hadn’t gone back to the office when I opened the door to see an older husband and wife standing there with warm smiles.
They were Jehovah Witnesses. We talked for about a minute or two and I began to ask some probing questions. This excited them and they wanted to come back and do a Bible study with me. I agreed. After all, they never asked me my “profession” and I never offered it to them.
They came over the following Monday and we began examining the Scriptures together. Ultimately they got mad and left when I continued asking them to reconcile Isaiah 44:6 and Revelation 22:13 since they claim Jesus is not Yahweh. I am sad they got upset, but I was able to present the gospel to them, and I can only hope and pray that one day the Lord may use that encounter to rescue them from their deception.
But this post isn’t about Jehovah Witnesses really. It’s about Hell. You see, one of the core doctrines that JW’s deny is the existence of a literal, eternal, conscious place called Hell.
Unfortunately, it’s not just the Jehovah Witnesses who deny this crucial doctrine. Other people who claim to be Christians have denied a literal, eternal Hell over the years. Recently even the Pope (who already is a false teacher) was accused of denying the existence of Hell.
One of the things the lady Jehovah Witness said to me in our meeting was, “If your son disobeyed you, would you hold his hand on a hot stove forever to punish him?” She was quite satisfied in her argumentation. Of course, I would never do such a thing to my son. But this argument completely misunderstands the nature of sin, and both the love, and holiness of God.
In fact, there is a dangerous trajectory I see in many professing Christians toward the same end Rob Bell has arrived at. Namely, being so convinced of an erroneous view of God’s love, that one is compelled to ignore or erase Scripture’s teaching on a literal, eternal Hell, and essentially become a universalist (that is, saying everyone goes to Heaven. Also, Bell has many more false teachings than just denying the existence of hell. He has fully apostatized).
Popular contemporary songs about God’s love may lead some to believe that the chief object of God’s love is us. That we are loved so much by Him that He’s even willing to break His own Law to rescue us. That God’s love is so focused on us that He can be called reckless.
This is absolutely preposterous. God will not share His glory with another (Isaiah 42:8). He is holy, holy, holy, (Isaiah 6:3, Revelation 4:8) and His divine Law is not something “outside” of Him as though He can choose or not choose to obey it. Rather, the Law is a reflection of the very nature of the holiness of God.
God is Love
Now, we want to be unwaveringly committed to the truth that God is love (1 John 4:8). And that God’s love is manifested to the world in this way: that He gave His only Son for the redemption of all who believe in Him (see John 3:16). God does not love us because there is something worthy in us but because of His grace (Romans 5:8). The love of God truly is astounding and unable to be fully comprehended by the finite human mind.
But if we begin to see God’s love like a teenager’s crush, we’ve grossly misinterpreted a glorious doctrine. If we think He’s merely a reckless romantic high on love, we aren’t familiar enough with Scripture. In this line of reasoning, people start with their own understanding of love and then apply that to God’s love for them. Instead of seeing God as infinitely holy, worthy, and righteous, they begin to see Him as a God of compromise, all for the sake of love. In fact, they think God sees them as they see themselves. They were created in the image of God, but now they’ve returned the favor-seeking to create a god in their own image. They believe God loves them just as they are because of who they are (after all they love who they are).
Yet, if God’s Law is a reflection of His own holy nature, then how can we possibly think it a trifle thing to break? Breaking God’s Law is an attack upon God Himself. And the problem is, we’ve all broken God’s Holy Law (Romans 3:23).
I’ll leave a discussion on these verses for another day, but consider how strongly Psalm 5:5 and Psalm 11:5 speak of God’s disposition toward Law Breakers.
The point is that God will not compromise His own holy character for the sake of “love.” That’s a ridiculous notion of God’s love anyway. God’s love is so pure and undefiled that it can never compromise His own glory.
In fact, this is quite wonderful news in the gospel: God’s redemption of His people is not about us – apart from His own glory. He is after our chief end; we are not to revel in how great we are, but to glorify Him and enjoy Him forever. In other words, His love for rescuing sinners is a love that “spills over” so to speak from His love for His own glory. God’s love is about who He is more than who we are.
A Literal, Conscious, Eternal Hell
So, here is where we can begin to wrap our minds around the purpose of a literal, conscious, eternal Hell. Jesus speaks of the eternality of Hell in Matthew: And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life (Matthew 25:46). Some have tried to argue that “eternal” doesn’t mean eternal, but the problem is Jesus uses the same modifier for punishment as he does life. So if the punishment is not eternal, then neither is the life.
In Revelation 20:10 John writes: and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Then in Revelation 21:8 he tells us: But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.
A day of reckoning is coming. Because God’s love is about who He is, then the wrath of God will be overwhelming, never ending, unrelenting, purposeful, and unbearable. And it will last forever upon those who have refused to glorify Him and enjoy Him and have broken His Holy Law time and again.
Hell does not compromise God’s love. Rather, it shows us that His love for His own eternal glory is such that nothing and no one can diminish it in the slightest degree without serious and just consequence.
Hell is a place of unimaginable sadness, rage, pain, darkness, suffering, and torment (Matthew 13:42). Hell is not a place where God is “not”, but is a place where God’s justice manifests itself day and night for all eternity. An infinite God has been sinned against, and thus, only an infinite punishment is just.
I will make a side note here on why Jesus has to be God or we don’t have salvation. Only Christ, the 2nd Person of the Trinity, can Himself bear the full and just measure of God’s wrath. No one else could make the payment.
In the gospel of Matthew we see that Hell is place of fire (Matthew 5:22, 7:19), the whole body goes there (Matthew 5:29-30), a place of destruction (Matthew 7:13), many people go there (Matthew 7:22), body and soul are continually destroyed there (Matthew 10:28), and that God does sentence people there (Matthew 23:33).
I don’t know of any believer that can read this and not feel a burden for so many who are self-deceived because of their own self-love which has distorted the biblical understanding of God’s love. They believe they are the highest object of God’s love, and if nothing changes, will one day meet Him in judgment.
Let me conclude with a few applications:
- Let this truth cause us to marvel at grace. May we see that all are deserving of such a place because of our guilt in Adam and our willful besmirching of God’s holiness. We are sinners by nature and by choice. By God’s grace alone many are rescued from God by God for God. Soli Deo Gloria. Let us praise God for His love! That He leads us in paths of righteousness for His name’s sake (Psalm 23:3).
- Let this truth also cause us to be fervently biblical when teaching and singing about God’s love. The slightest misstep may cause significant and incredible consequences for those around us and those who come after us.
- Let this truth cause us to praise God for His goodness and all that entails. Hell exists because God is good. A world without Hell would be terribly unjust. But because Hell exists, we know that God’s justice will prevail. He is good.
- Let this truth cause us to be zealous in our preaching the gospel to the lost. No, the ultimate purpose for salvation is not to “get out of Hell.” However, Hell is real and terrible and it is a contributing factor to why we must be untiring in our efforts to see people come to Christ in saving faith.
Spot on! My church starting singing this song. We’re leaving. Great articulation of the heart of the matter in words I couldn’t find myself. Thank you.
Thanks for reading!
And I’m so sorry to hear about the church situation. Have a blessed Lord’s day.
Thank you! My church started singing this song and I knew it was erroneous but was unable to articulate how so. That word “reckless” was really bothering me. This article was a big help!
I’m glad it was a help!
I have heard this song on the radio and we started singing it in church. It has troubled me and seemed wrong. Thank you for bringing to light the reasons for our error. We are more and more focused on ourselves rather than on God as well as love instead of truth. How can we sing these types of songs as worship to the Almighty God, our King? Clearly there is little knowledge of Him and loss of reverence.
Thanks for reading and thanking carefully about our great God and King!
I agree that what you’ve said is Biblical. I have committed grievous sins. I have repented but struggle with sin. I’ve lied, cheated, been cowardly, and more. Although these things do not characterize my life. I desire to be holy and seek to please God by trusting and obeying Him daily. I’m still terrified about the possibility of going to hell.
Andre,
Thanks for reading. I think my new book may help you as you think through that last sentence you wrote. If you can’t afford it, I’ll reimburse your for the kindle copy or send you a paperback.
http://thingsabove.us/from-death-to-life/
Andre, I get it. More than I care to admit, actually. I think I’ll pick up a copy of that book myself, Allen IV.
Thanks. It’s even worse than you think
I hate to hear that, Andre. You can count on me praying for you this week. Is there anything else I can do?
Thank you. I need a job.
You got it, Andre. Will pray for that, too.
First-time reader. Christian. Bible lover. We agree completely on the modern application of love to God’s character, as if He were infatuated with us. It’s silly and offensive.
Like you, I see the self-love movement as an error. However: I’m not sure I follow your logic with regard to God’s love. You seem to say that His love for us isn’t actually love for us, but love for Himself…that He loves us in order that we will glorify Him. This makes humanity simply a tool for self-reflective love, which we have already decried in ourselves. It also suggests that God is, currently, insufficiently self-glorified, and that He needs us to glorify Him to Himself make up the difference.
Rather than claim that God’s love for us is actually love for His own glory and for His own sake, I would suggest that we are actually objects of His love. I would also suggest that He loves in an other-focused, self-sacrificing, and generous way, in the same manner that He wants us to also love Him and each other.
Thanks for reading brother. And thanks for these comments.
I don’t mean to say that we aren’t truly and actually objects of God’s love. We definitely are. I just mean to say that I don’t think it’s possible to separate God’s love for His own glory since that is the chief end for which He made us.
This sort of idea is a struggle of the heart for me, too, I must confess. If I’m not careful I can end up in a mindset that says God loves me because He is contractually obligated. This is unhelpful. I like the idea of both/and to which you seem to allude at the end of your comment, Allen.
I have been moved by this song and appreciate the heart of it even though the word reckless may not be theologically precise. In reconciling my sin with God’s grace through Christ it does seem like God has taken action to reconcile himself to me without regard to what I deserve. In actuality I realize that he has absolutely taken into account what I deserve and paid the price for me. In this way his love may better be described as deliberate I suppose.
In the same way “When I was Your foe, still Your love fought for me” resonates with me because He has shown grace despite my rebellion. Instead of a vessel of wrath I am a vessel of mercy which can bring glory to Him.
In these ways I wonder what the most appropriate way to express ourselves to God is. Is there a degree of artistic lisence that permits expression of our experience from our point of view, though we know it doesn’t contain nuance? Or should we have absolute care with our words and music, that we accurately represent our God to a lost world? Should we have stricter criteria in the setting of a worship service?
I think there is a degree of artistic license permissible when arranging a song. But when a line or phrase is in direct contradiction to revealed truth, we must reject it. Reckless is, not to be too cute here, actually used recklessly in this particular song.
I think Scripture must control our criteria.
How can it be both unbearable and eternal?
God sustains the sinner in hell so that he or she is not obliterated.
Then it wouldn’t be unbearable, would it? Because if God so sustains the sinner, he or she is continuing to bear it — for eternity.
Unbearable in the sense that a sinner left to himself or herself would not be able to bear it.
Sort of like saying living the Christian life is impossible in and of ourselves. But because the Holy Spirit it is possible.
That’s how I meant it brother.
Thanks.